God Damned Fundies!
|From: DAVID RICE
|To: GWENNY THE POOH
|Sub: Gods, not god
|Date: 18 Jan 96 12:54:00
EID:da59 203266c0
TID: FastEcho 1.45a 10280
-=> Quoting Gwenny The Pooh to William Childress <=-
>WC> The gods you referenced are false. I.E., they are not
>WC> what they are represented as.
Much like the Christian gods.
GTP> I worship the Earth. She exists and all we have comes
GTP> from Her.
What nation did the moon rocks come from?
/smirk!/
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|From: DAVID RICE
|To: J.J. HITT
|Sub: $cientology
|Date: 18 Jan 96 13:24:00
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-=> Quoting J.j. Hitt to Preston Simpson <=-
>>JJH> Members who had broken any of the thousands of rules
>>JJH> (and this included small children, one young offender
>>JJH> ate the "Commodore's" telex) were locked in the "anchor
>>JJH> locker" with a small wire brush and told to clean the
>>JJH> chain.
>PS> Ugh. And if they refused?
JJH> Wouldn't happen. A literally unthinkable option.
JJH> Membership on Flag was a special honor, those who signed
JJH> on for the "billion year tour of duty" were not newbies
JJH> off the street but persons who had already been in the
JJH> rank and file for years. If anyone was going to refuse
JJH> anything, they would have done it long before they ever
JJH> became a candidate for Flag.
But think of the benefits: They got to wear nifty uniforms!
JJH> And besides, in the event you were someone who had
JJH> deliberately infiltrated the organization: you were at
JJH> sea. Are you going to walk home? Anyone that close to
JJH> Hubbard couldn't have helped but notice that he was crazy
JJH> enough to toss you overboard (with weights). That never
JJH> happened, but only because it was never necessary, I don't
JJH> think Hubbard would have given it a second thought if he
JJH> felt the need.
Hubbard often did exactly that: "overboarding" out-ethics flag
members by tying their hands togeather and throwing them off
the side of the _Apollo._
JJH> So how is it that we know anything at all about life on
JJH> Flag? Hubbard was a paranoid. He was always finding people
JJH> around him that he felt needed to be drummed out of the
JJH> organization.
Not to mention, we have Steve Fishman! :-)
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Preston Simpson
|Sub: Re: Homosexian Christual
|Date: 16 Jan 96 15:17:00
EID:029e 20307a20
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc31ec
CR> so much that he sent his Son to take that punishment for us. We
PS>And he loved them so much that he ordered his chosen people to murder
PS>infants. He loved people so much that he drowned most of them when the
PS>Bible says your earth was young. He loved people so much that he sent
PS>two bears to maul a pack of kids to death because they teased one of
PS>his prophets.
PS>That's not love, Chuckie.
True. That is Righteous Judgment. Think of it from the point of view
of the bears. They could thank God for providing them a meal while
at the same time carrying out judgment on those worthy of it.
Besides, He is the one calling the shots. So, anything you or I
say or think about it has no effect on what He says or does.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Preston Simpson
|Sub: Married, Will Cheat
|Date: 16 Jan 96 15:22:02
EID:e5ca 20307ac0
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc331a
PS>... "From the author of the best selling horror novel, _The Bible_...."
Ya. From the pov of most on this Conference this is probably true.
Problem is, someday it will be for many a historical horror novel.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Boni Hitch
|Sub: Christian Jobs
|Date: 16 Jan 96 15:31:04
EID:2058 20307be0
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc3538
BH>This is not the first time I have read an ad of this nature, and the
BH>more it happens, the ANGRIER I find myself!!!
BH> This is a real ad, taken from "The News Avertiser", January 7,
BH> 1996:
BH> CHRISTIAN HORIZONS
BH> Front line staff required to work with developmentally and
BH> behaviourally challanged individuals in group home settings.
BH> Working from a Christian perspective, education and experience
BH> are required.
BH> Apply in writing to:
BH> 575 Wentworth Street East,
BH> Unit 20, Oshawa Ont.
BH> etc. etc. etc.
Looks fine to me. If the organization is owned and run by
christians why shouldn't they be able to choose who they
want as employees?
BH>Now, I have also seen jobs for "Christian truckdriver wanted" and "Born
BH>again carpenter".
Again, if the organization is owned and run by christians, why
can't they choose who they want?
BH>What absolutely galls me is that these ads are ILLEGAL IN CANADA and
BH>yet, Christians still get away with it!!!
Either they are legal in Canada or the Canadian Government isn't
very adept in upholding their own laws in this regard.
BH>What is the difference if the person applying is Jewish, or atheist or
BH>Moslem or whatever? Either you have the experience and the
BH>qualifications or you DON'T!!!
If the organization is owned and run by christians who want their
employees to teach christianity then they should have a right to
this kind of employee.
BH>NOTE TOO: that the first qualification is to be Christian--the rest
BH>appear to be negotiable!
The guy who owns the business calls the shots.
BH>Can you imagine the bloody uproar that would ensue if I was to
BH>advertise:
BH>
"Wanted: Must be Native and untainted by
BH> Christianity. No Jews, Moslems or Hindus need
BH> apply. Skilled leather craftsperson."
BH>THINK ABOUT IT, PEOPLE!!!
Looks fine to me. If the own wants this he has the right.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Ryan Shaw
|Sub: Fun in Church...
|Date: 16 Jan 96 15:38:06
EID:b661 20307cc0
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc36de
RS>Jim Staal wrote in a message to Steve Rose:
JS> Hmmmm...church...not exciting? Ever tried it?
RS>Yes, in fact I have.
RS>It consisted of a large population of older folks dressed
RS>in their spiffy clashing suits and dresses. For about an
RS>hour everyone sat silent listening to one man preaching
RS>stuff at them. It had the air of a large brainwashing
RS>session.
RS>Then in the lobby they served NOODLES! Oodles and oodles of NOODLES!
RS>were enough NOODLES for everyone there to have their share
RS>of the oodles and oodles of NOODLES!
RS>That is _not_ what I call excitement.
Hmmm... Guess you haven't been to Calvary Chapel. There, people dress
any way they want to dress. People of all ages attend. There is some
good Christian Rock music (which the Business Section of the LA Times
today said is making lots of money), and a preacher who is humorous
and interesting. One may not agree with what he says. But at least
he has something subtantive to say and says it in an entertaining
manner.
Oh, and they serve no noodles in the lobby.
Ken
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Ryan Shaw
|Sub: [2/2] Grace
|Date: 16 Jan 96 15:41:08
EID:efa4 20307d20
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc3794
RS>Maria Russell wrote in a message to Lynda Bustilloz:
MR> God offers salvation to ALL. It's a GIFT. He extends it to
MR> everyone. It's up to the individual if he himself will ACCEPT it.
RS>Let me get this straight. All we have to do is believe in
RS>god, accept god, etc. and everything will be taken care of?
No. Salvation is offered to all. Based on the manner in
which Maria expressed herself, though, I can see why
one could misconstrue the message.
RS>In that case, could you furnish me with god's account
RS>numbers so that I can have the bill collectors take the
RS>money out of his account? Thanks in advance.
God is not generally in the business of bailing out
those who have a problem with financial management.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Christian Miller
|Sub: Re: Homosexual christian
|Date: 16 Jan 96 15:47:10
EID:5687 20307de0
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc38fe
CM> On Saturday, January 13th, 1996 - Preston Simpson wrote:
PS> You have any evidence outside of your book of myths that he created
PS> anything?
CM>How do you explain this world & everything on it?
Well, you see, there was this Big Bang wherein everything
came into being out of nothing...Then this mindless force
known as Natural Selection took over from there. At least
that is what they tried to teach my kids in public school.
Ken
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Karl Schneider
|Sub: White-lighter Religions
|Date: 16 Jan 96 15:49:12
EID:c85e 20307e20
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc3978
As> #5 Yes, that does figure if you think about it.
As> Where is the proof of a 'heaven'? I see none.
JP>Get back to me when you WANT to see a bit of "evidence."
KS>Are you nuts or just inconceivably dense???
KS>Everyfuckingbody in the ECHO has been BEGGING for evidence for
KS>years!
Right...They're all crawling all over each other trying to
find evidence. And dogs fly too.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Karl Schneider
|Sub: flood
|Date: 16 Jan 96 17:52:14
EID:3729 20308e80
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc564e
PS> Whilst noshing on a Twinkie, Maria Russell mumbled "Re:
PS> flood"
MB>do that, since the Bible is, I'm told, the Word of God, and cannot
MB>contain such variations. (Now would somebody please explain to me
MB>why there are two flood myths in the Bible, and they are different
MB>in some major details?)
KS>Joshua 24 is interesting...it talks about people from "the other
KS>side of the flood"...and how they worshipped OTHER gods...
Hmmm...I wonder which translation you have. Mine says "from
beyond the River..." with a footnote indicating the reference
is to the Euphrates River.
KS> * OLX 2.2 * Multitasking: Start a download, go get a beer...
Damn! You mean I didn't have to buy Windows95?
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Karl Schneider
|Sub: A Visit 4/4
|Date: 16 Jan 96 17:54:16
EID:0f03 20308ec0
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc56c8
LB>"Married, Will Cheat?"
LB>Right. I don't see anything wrong with sex outdoors (unless it's on
LB>neighbors lawn without their permission, of course), but there is no
KS>Or on the 50 yard line at the Super Bowl...
LB>deceive your spouse, from either a Christian standpoint, OR from any
LB>which values honor and honesty. I found it hideous that he would at
LB>to justify those echos by dragging in God as co-conspirator.
KS>Hm. I wonder what Joseph thought when JC popped out...?...
"My God!" probably.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Karl Schneider
|Sub: Thanks for your Response
|Date: 16 Jan 96 17:57:18
EID:1a78 20308f20
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fc577e
GZ>eternal life. Jesus gives away the gift of eternal life freely to al
GZ>those who accept Him as Lord and Savior. To those who refuse Him com
GZ>eternal suffering. We have all sinned and come short of the Glory of
KS>Ah. Threats, eh? Screw you and your bastard myth-gawd.
Yup. You better fess up...
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Preston Simpson
|Sub: Christian
|Date: 17 Jan 96 14:11:00
EID:5146 20317160
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fd73f4
PS>Whilst noshing on a Twinkie, Jim Staal mumbled "Christian"
JS> Lynda, why the great offense? My main beef is purely your apparent
JS> departure from scripture. When I ask for evidence from scripture f
JS> your 'beliefs', you instead, bad mouth me to the pagans.
PS>Departure from scripture? Excellent. Let's talk about that.
I'm willing.
PS>Toss out all your clothing made from more than one kind of fiber. Stop
PS>eating pork products, or at least avoid cooking them with the same
PS>utensils you use for dairy products. Don't bother with shaving, keep
PS>the sabbath, don't bother foreigners, have your local minister do your
PS>property assessments, take in the homeless (but give them no food), et
PS>cetera.
Every hear of Progressive Revelation? That the Law was fulfilled
100% in Jesus Christ? That Christians are not under the Law?
Get back to us when you stop departing from Scripture yourself.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Sue Armstrong
|Sub: Fof
|Date: 17 Jan 96 15:54:02
EID:ceed 20317ec0
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fd8c1a
JB> Things that will NOT lose your account...calling someone a 'godles
JB> heathen', 'hell-bound sinner' or 'atheist bastard'. Usually undese
JB> as anyone who would utter something that WOULD deserve such a reto
JB> has already been booted...not JUST out of the forum, but off the
JB> service completely.
SA>I hear something similar has gone/is going down on Compuserve. Any
SA>verification of such a rumour?
Hmmm...I'll have to go check both AOL and Compuserve. I have both.
I have never frequented the Religion Forums on either, though.
Doing something like that would run into too much money being
rung up too quickly. I primarily use these Services for the
tech support I need from software developers I have software
from.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Marilyn Burge
|Sub: It only hurts when I Spo
|Date: 17 Jan 96 16:03:04
EID:b11a 20318060
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fd8e38
JH> And in modern times we have the observance of Hanukkah. The
JH> history of it's observance as a major holiday happens to
JH> coincide with the time when Dickens and the retailers made
JH> Christmas into a Mighty Big Deal. Also, you will find it
JH> being either a minor observance or not observed at all in
JH> those parts of the world where the Eastern Orthodox callendar
JH> is used and Christmas is celebrated somewhat later in the
JH> year.
MB>It's also problematic whether Jews are currently practicing
MB>Judaism or not. How many in this country now keep kosher? That's
MB>just one example. The Jews in this country, for the most part,
MB>have pretty thoroughly assimilated. And those that haven't are
MB>generally thought of as lunatic fringe. Living in the "melting
MB>pot" we call "American" tends to do that to cultures. There are
MB>probably more traditional, kosher-keeping Jews in Israel than in
MB>anyplace else in the world, and even there, I'm not sure they are
MB>in the majority.
This is probably true. Although, I can remember waiting at
Kennedy airport on my way to Israel. I had never seen so
many Orthodox Jews in my life in one place. These men in
black suits, beards, black hats, standing around all over
the place in the airport engaged in animated discussions.
I spent two months in Israel and never saw as many in one
location as I did at Kennedy. Of course, that was in 1973.
I'm sure things have changed dramatically since then in
this respect.
Assimilation sure has happened with the denomination I
grew up in. I grew up in a Mennonite Brethren Church
in San Jose, Calif. My parents had come from Nebraska.
Their parents had come from Russia. Back in Nebraska,
earlier this century, they were very much like the
Amish: no cars, no dancing, no skating in a skating
rink, no going to movies, etc. etc. Basically, as
little contact with the outside world as possible.
By the time I was growing up the only thing left
was no dancing or going to movies. Other than these,
one couldn't tell a Mennonite from anyone else in
the culture around them. Today, the ban against
dancing and movies is totally gone.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Marilyn Burge
|Sub: Ark
|Date: 17 Jan 96 16:06:06
EID:6456 203180c0
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fd8eee
MB>On (14 Jan 96) J.J. Hitt wrote to Preston Simpson...
JH> service record to the public. BUT, the tale I heard
JH> recently claimed that he was in command of a submarine in
JH> WWI (did we even have subs
PS> I heard that he was aboard a destroyer during WWII.
JH> That concurs with the biographical notes about him in the
JH> back of Dianetics. For some reason I thought Hubbub was older
JH> than that. I thought Crowley had made a few references to him
JH> (Maybe Luke Clark has these handy), which would tend to make
JH> him older than the average WWII soldier's age of 25.
MB>That was an average. If I remember correctly, they werr drafting
MB>up to the age of 40.
This is correct. My dad barely avoided getting drafted in World
War II because his 41st birthday came just in time.
MB>... Creationist: "Why yes. Rome _was_ built in a day."
MB>--- PPoint 1.98
MB> * Origin: So What's Yer Point? (1:105/40.666)
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Alan Jennings
|Sub: Church of Elvis
|Date: 17 Jan 96 16:08:08
EID:95d0 20318100
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fd8f68
> Doesn't being saved have a tendency to reduce
> your intellect???
AJ>Yes it does, but having Elvis think you're neat can add
AJ>bucks to your bank account. He's one generous guy.
There have been some pretty heavyweight scholars who
have become saved whose intellects were not reduced
in the least for having done so. C. S. Lewis is an
example. Even his detractors recognized this fact.
At least those who personally knew him knew this
fact.
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* WR 1.33 # 618 * Religious error: (A)tone (R)epent (I)mmolate?
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Dan Ceppa
|Sub: Re: God Is Pure Evil!
|Date: 17 Jan 96 17:39:10
EID:4afa 20318ce0
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fda4be
-> On 01-11-96 17:41, Kris Okelly got back to Martin Goldberg
KO> if god was evil he would not of made us..
DC>If god had any powers, he would have taught you grammar and
DC>spelling.
I hope we don't need to drag god into this...I remember
grading papers of college students when I was in graduate
school. What alarmed me was that many of the foreign
students were much better in spelling and grammar than
the American students. I just hate it when someone
uses "of" when they should have used "have."
KO> meny ways.. he gave me a loving family plus great firends.
DC>That's "andirons", or do you squeeze your cheeks together to
DC>hold the logs....
This kid needs help.
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|From: Ken Wiens
|To: Dan Ceppa
|Sub: Conference Guidelines
|Date: 17 Jan 96 17:47:12
EID:5329 20318de0
MSGID: 1:103/550.0 30fda6a0
-> On 01-10-96 22:20, Les Wilcox got back to Larry Sites
LW> * WaveRdr 1.0 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COP
LS>What is a "christian"? A licensed fucking thief! Biased on your
LS>hypocritical actions. If jesus exists, is he proud of you?
LW> Grow up! I've already explained that this program doesn't have
LW> a 30 day limitation from the author. You worry about registering
LW> * WaveRdr 1.0 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COP
DC>Are you done evaluating it? Or are you too stupid to understand
DC>the concept?
I happen to have gotten mine registered some months ago.
However, the people who created this program have moved
and left no address or way of contacting them. Sue and
Doug Crocker shut down their BBS in Washington, left
Microsoft and moved to some other State. Evidently
Doug works for DataStorm now. Still, an unregistered
user would not be able to register at this juncture.
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|From: Sue Alexander
|To: David Worrell
|Sub: Homosexian Christuals
|Date: 18 Jan 96 02:33:38
EID:c52b 20321420
PID: BWMAX2 3.10 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:121/45.0 30fff843
REPLY: 1:3615/41.11 30fbb6c5
-=> Quoting David Worrell to Charles Rollins <=-
DW> I don't usually start tagline-based discussions, but this was to
DW> weird to pass up.
CR> ... "God is Dead" - Nietzsche ::: "Nietzsche is Dead" - God
CR> -+-
CR> + Origin: The Q-Continuum, Sissonville, WV (1:279/14.3)
DW> You mean you actually have taglines that *aren't* related to Star
DW> Trek? Amazing.
Actually, I think the word for it is "fascinating".
Sue
... I've had a difficult past few lives. -The Doctor
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: CHRISTOLOGY
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:48:27
EID:3398 20334e00
Jim Staal, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said to
Marty Leipzig:
So, is this really Jim or another anacephalic alternate?
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Jim Staal <=-
ML> Jim or Lump? Which Staal for you [J/L]?
JS> 'J'. How many lumps for you? One or two...step up here...
ML> Now which Staal is once again advocating violence (or is it
ML> another sham at high tea)?
JS> Violence!? Violence to whom!? (and I don't get high on 'tea'.)
You again; offering lumps. (You say you don't get high on tea;
so what do you get high on? Anoxia?)
ML> Why would they need two versions if they were exactly the same?
JS> I don't know about 'they',
ML> Now there's the understatement of the month.
JS> DEFINE _'THEY'_, HERR DOKTOR!!
Do your own research, Jimbo. Quit begging your betters to do it
for you.
JS> I knew
JS> what you were trying to imply, but I don't see it that way.
ML> That's not all you don't see.
JS> Yeah...I don't see the point of this conversation...
Conversations with nescient rubes are rather pointless,
although you do provide some hilarious comic relief; however
insouciant.
ML> Paul suffered head trauma.
JS> Any evidence to support this claim? If so trot it out here and we'll
JS> take a look at it, MISTER Leipzig...
Just ask Hector. (I wonder why you excised the rest of my
reply...hit too close to home?)
JS> were just a bunch of
JS> 'shewest thou me's. And I'm not Al Bundy. I don't sell women's shoes.
JS> Ya know?
ML> No, I do not. Who, or what, is an "Al Bundy"
JS> Huh!? You live in a cave or something?
Nope. Just Russia, Uzbekistan and other points east for good
portions of the year.
JS> Truely
Try "truly", Herr "English Major".
JS> _the_ male role model
JS> of the 80's and 90's...
For you. That figures.
ML> and from where did
ML> this "women's shoes" reference emerge?
JS> Al Bundy sells womens
Try "...women's...", Comrade "English Major".
JS> shoes...'shewest thou me'?
You will never know how I am relieved that I know nothing about
your role models.
JS> Duh...
Yet another disenfranchised quasibiped from the MTV school of debate.
... Are you really THAT stupid, or do you have to work at it?
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: 2 SO, WHY GOD?
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:49:12
EID:6fca 20334e20
Jim Staal, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said to
Marty Leipzig:
So, which lumpian Stall have I reached this time around?
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Jim Staal <=-
ML> Jimbo, is this really you or someone just as ignorant?
JS> I really despise your new 'intro' lines...
ML> How unfortunate. Now, answer the question. Is it you or someone
ML> else in Wyoming who's just as ignorant?
JS> I know nothing of this 'wyoming' of which you speak. I live in
JS> Grandville, Michigan.
That's because it's "Wyoming". And, you still did not answer
the question.
JS> In fact, I live in a post box, #171, Grandville,
JS> MI 49468-0171.
Damn. What with your being so tall and all, I'll wager that's a
mighty tight fit.
ML> I don't need a milkcrate, Comrade.
JS> So they tried to tell me. I would not believe it. I do not believe it.
ML> Who cares? You also believe every jot and tittle of the Bible.
JS> Why shouldn't I believe it? S'the truth...
So tell us all about the flood, Jimbo. Provide a little
evidence of the truth of that claim.
JS> I have seen no evidence of it...for _I_ am 6'7", 285lbs of
ML> No...this is just too easy...
JS> No, I ate a lot of corn flakes as a youthful Hollander...
Flakes.
It figures.
JS> well marbled
JS> Hollander...
ML> Particularly between the ears.
JS> Tsk...
Veritas.
ML> You know, Jimbo; you strike me as someone with a serious ego
ML> problem. I'm no psychiatrist (never claimed to be, in fact); but
ML> no one else in this forum ever trumpets about themselves as much
ML> as you.
JS> None _can_ measure up, can they...
To your insipid egomaniacal rantings? Nope, you're a blue ribbon
winner in that "class"
ML> Are we supposed to be intimidated or impressed?
JS> Neither. Merely amused, that's all...
You are rather amusing, however unintentional.
ML> We're neither.
JS> REally!? I thought you would be one of the 'better educated' [TM]
JS> your bro Fred Rice trumpets around here...
Fred is not my brother, as I have none. And, as I stated, we're
neither impressed nor intimidated by you; merely amused.
JS> Nah...you seem more of a man of _mere_ words...
Quote editing is verboten, Herr Staal. That _mere_ is an
addition of yours to the original, Chuckles. Styx doesn't take
lightly to that, you know.
ML> Yep. That's what they tell me at the gym.
JS>
Nope. Mengele is dead; you merely emulate him from the neck-up.
JS> 'picosecond'???
ML> It's a science term, Jimmy. My apologies, I should have
ML> realized that it would have flummoxed you completely.
JS> 'flummoxed'!? Is that some sort of ethnic idiom?
Nope. Yet another common word that completely vexes the
resident "English Major".
How quaint.
ML> Well, Jimbo; I am not wicked; nor am I atrocious; in fact, my
ML> wordsmithery reflects refinement and exemplary English.
JS> My my...you can wax eloquent if you desire...
ML> Jealous?
JS> Not at all. I am referred to 'Silver Tongued Jim Staal' even out of
JS> the bedroom, Marty...
I guess you'd get that from licking out stainless steel
urinals.
JS> But I do and there is, therefore you did...in my eyes...
ML> "...in your eyes..."? So who appointed you arbiter of all things
ML> sacred and profane?
JS> Oh, not I, sir, but rather, the holy writ, The Bible.
This "Holy Writ" also says that bats are birds.
So much for the credence of that reference.
JS> No, I'm referring to the personal attack on the individual...
ML> For someone so allegedly big, your skin seems definitely
ML> monomolecular in thickness.
JS> Not at all, sir. You attack one's intellect, which is far beyond mere
JS> flesh wounds.
In order to attack your intellect, I have to be quite the
sharpshooter.
ML> Hey, what do you expect from a "heinous blasphemer", Jimbo?
ML> Sauce, Herr Staal, for the goose.
JS> In other words, they are mere juvenile retribution? I can accept that.
Not at all. They are mere words that cause you enormous
anxiety. I call that "fun".
ML> True, it has progressed. I before thought you were a boor. Now
ML> I am sure of it.
JS> Tsk. Just when I thought you were getting to know me better...
I know you far too well as it stands. Getting to know you
better is like getting better acquainted with a sewer rat.
ML> Of course it isn't. It came from you, therefore it couldn't be.
JS> Ahhh...and once again you abuse my good nature and fine sense of
JS> humor. That's OK, I can take it...like a _man_!
Jimmy, you really shouldn't leave straight lines like that...
... Most people have beliefs. The remaining small percent prefer to think.
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: Staal shows he's colored
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:50:19
EID:43ef 20334e40
Jim Staal, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said to
Marty Leipzig:
Now, which Staal has oozed his way onto the scene this time?
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Preston Simpson <=-
PS> (What fool puts an OED on the second floor of his house?
PS> You've got to make sure the foundation is fairly strong to even have
PS> one on the ground floor.)
ML> Since when do double-wides have a second story?
JS> I resent the inference...like _I_ live in a mobile.
Looks like I put another group in the 10 ring.
JS> I'll have you know
JS> I have owned my own three bedroom humble(900 sq ft _including_ garage)
JS> ranch since 1969...with basement.
Now just a minute, Jimbo. In the previous post, you said that
you "...lived in a post box...".
Don't lie, Jimmy. The better educated around here catch you
each and every time you do.
... "We've got Moog synthesizers...we could kill you from here." MST3K
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Judith Bandsma
|Sub: STAAL SHOWS
|Date: 18 Jan 96 11:36:08
EID:30cc 20325c80
Judith Bandsma, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Jim Staal <=-
ML> And order the Steak Tartare medium well, no doubt.
JB>
JB> No, he's the type that would order it and then complain that it wasn't
JB> cooked well enough when it came. When corrected he would then come up
JB> with something like 'I know that, but I like mine well done anyway'.
Then he'd finally settle for a well done piece of leather,
slather it with ketchup and toothlessly grin "Now that's good
eatin'!".
JB> Yes...for some warm weather to get here so I can grind my own again.
I just put up a rack of venison sausage. I'm still waiting on a
load of mesquite to finish it properly.
... A Mystic asking for a hot-dog: "Make me one with everything".
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: George Rudzinski
|Sub: CHRISTOLOGY
|Date: 18 Jan 96 12:07:06
EID:3055 203260e0
George Rudzinski, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Jim Staal <=-
ML> Jim Staal, who wanted to be a miner, but was lousy adit, said to
ML> Marty Leipzig:
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Jim Staal <=-
ML> Jim or Lump? Which Staal for you [J/L]?
JS> 'J'. How many lumps for you? One or two...step up here...
ML> Now which Staal is once again advocating violence (or is it
ML> another sham at high tea)?
GR> Marty,
GR> And he claims I'm violent. He wacks his wife around, makes people
GR> stand on milk crates, and claims I'm violent?
Jim is very uneven (I was going to say unstable, but even I
won't stoop that low for a "Staal" pun). It really makes me
wonder what is on what passes for his mind when he repeatedly
trumpets his size in this forum.
As if that's germane to anything on this echo.
Curious.
... "Eye's a Anglish majjur, an I neber heard tha' werd". Bro Jimmy
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: Marty, Marty, Marty...
|Date: 19 Jan 96 06:27:07
EID:8df6 20333360
Jim Staal, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said to
Marty Leipzig:
So, which Staal has pulled his toes out of his mouth to post a
message this time?
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Jm Staal <=-
JS> See how everything in God's creation serves a purpose Herr Leipzig.
:)
ML> Indeed. Even you can be thought of to have a purpose; although
ML> why anyone would want a 6'7" trash can is beyond me.
JS> Ahh...so eloquent...
ML> Your jealousy is unbecoming.
JS> No jealousy. I sit back a shake my head
Why? You enjoy the noisome sound of marbles rattling around in
an empty tin can?
JS> in disbelief and dispair
^^^^^^^
That's "...despair...", Herr Idiot.
JS> as
JS> think of the waste of an education.
You obviously cannot be reflecting on your own sorry state, as
you don't have anything that could even remotely be considered
an education.
And if, by some befoolish construct of yours, are referring to me;
I'm sure all the Russians will get a good laugh out of you. I
regularly take a couple of weeks worth of HolySmoke over there
to let them see just what some people from the West are like.
You serve as an excellent example to my Eastern colleagues as a
class-A example of first class, homegrown, All-American washout.
Prosit!, Jimbo. You're the "toast" of two continents...how
about some jam to go with that?
JS> You can't even hold a civil
JS> conversation...
I don't hold civil conversations with cockroaches, either.
The exact same principle applies here.
JS> and your types are in the White House and other places
JS> of influence...
I don't have time for politics. My vistas are international;
unlike your parochial and prosaic prospects.
JS> (effluence, actually...)
Dwelling in that dump of a life as you do; you're the echo maven
in that department.
JS> so much for living up to the potential of a
JS> 'better education'...
I can and do. Too bad you possess and practice neither.
ML> Given the obvious level of your lack of the same, how could you
ML> even deign to comment upon it?
JS> I know one when I see one...
Just the point, Dickhead. "Blind are those who will not see."
Here's your cup and pencils. Go stake out a streetcorner.
... "What a depressingly stupid asshole." said Marvin and trudged away.
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: David Hilling
|Sub: There's no scotch like no scotch.
|Date: 19 Jan 96 08:57:05
EID:7d8e 20334720
David Hilling, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
DH> ::To: David Hilling From: Marty Leipzig Subj: There's no scotch
DH> like no scotch.----------------------@N ML> David Hilling, who wanted
DH> to be a miner, but was lousy adit, said to ML> Marty Leipzig:
DH> But there was one London greeting above all others
DH> that drew the heartiest of welcomes--the words `Old Crow!'"
DH> -Carl H. Giles _All About Booze_ (University Circle
DH> Press, 1966)
ML> And a hale "Wild Turkey" to you!
DH> Beam... James Beam.
Dickel...George Dickel.
... "*Wow*! What type of drinks do you serve here?" - Ford Prefect
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Gwenny the Pooh
|Sub: Homosexual Christian
|Date: 19 Jan 96 08:57:32
EID:669e 20334720
Gwenny the Pooh, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
GtP> Heilsa, Marty!
Tunk Gwerfya, Gwen!
GtP> While bumping down stairs after Christopher Robin, Gwenny the Pooh
GtP> heard Marty say to Gwenny:
CM>>> No. Even with the old Yin & Yang, GOOD & EVIL. Good & Bad, both
CM>>> intertwine. You can not have one without the other. Those people
CM>>> wern't even Christians.
GtP>> Yin and Yang are NOT good and evil, but positive and negative (as
in
GtP>> electrical charge), male and female, etc.
ML> Exactly. Opposites. Like Christian and atheist. Or Christian
ML> and intelligent. Or Christian and coherent...
GtP>
Set 'em up and knock 'em down...
CM>>> Christian
GtP>> PAGAN
ML> Atheist.
GtP> Oh, no, don't tell me I've started something.
"Not another list, Franz?!?"
GtP>> Valhalla or Niflhel -- Which for you?
ML> Both, particularly during happy hour.
GtP> Be sure you find out EXACTLY what's in that cauldron of wisdom before
GtP> you take a drink.
Make mine a double.
ML> ... I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat
ML> vegetables.
GtP> ... I know my place in the food chain, I a PREDATOR!
"That's not lunch. That's something lunch would eat..."
... "Bother", said Pooh as he drank his fifth Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Martin Goldberg
|Sub: Metafundy redux
|Date: 19 Jan 96 08:59:38
EID:5f96 20334760
Martin Goldberg, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
ML> I wouldn't know, though. I boycott Blockbuster because they
ML> caved into Rev. Wildmon and his pack of Religious
ML> Reichsters.
MG> I boycott all those bastards because they don't have any decent
MG> movies.
There's another valid reason.
MG> Although I did get a copy of "Elmer Gantry" once. Just for
MG> the hell of it.
Burt Lancaster was great in that role.
... Consider your reputation. Now, change your name and move out of town
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Martin Goldberg
|Sub: CHRISTOLOGY
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:00:20
EID:3eea 20334800
Martin Goldberg, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
ML> Anyone that can mention those two MTVidiots and
ML> sophistication
ML> in the same line has obviously been too long under the spell
ML> scotch.
MG> So tell me, Rock Pounder, who is more sophisticated....B&B or Michael
MG> Jackson.
I haven't a clue. I leave that to sophisticated connoisseurs of
MTV like yourself to make those calls.
... "Nothing satisfies quite like booze." - Crow T. Robot
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Martin Goldberg
|Sub: CHRISTOLOGY
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:02:36
EID:3eea 20334840
Martin Goldberg, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
MG>> prticipting in a pie fight.
ML> Send a "Hard Copy" news team to Wyoming around dinnertime.
MG> And Oosterman cna bake the fresh pies up. Maybe a fresh crop of
MG> horseapples?
You really think you could fit the Lump and his alter-ego into
a pie-pan?
... "Oh, bother"' said Pooh as Christopher Robin took Roo shark fishing.
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Martin Goldberg
|Sub: CHRISTOLOGY
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:03:36
EID:3eea 20334860
Martin Goldberg, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
MG>> More like a guy tht washes down his feathers with WT.
ML> Better than washing down the whole goose with scotch.
MG> You're right.
Of course I am.
I'm amazed, Herr Docktor. You actually are showing the
faintest glimmerings of good taste.
MG> Bourbon should be left for such things.
Indeed. It goes well with all upperclass comestibles.
MG> Scotch is far
MG> too palatable to be used near a goose.
Except during the de-feathering phase.
... I hear the Schmaltz Police knocking on your door...
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Martin Goldberg
|Sub: a miracle in the making
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:05:20
EID:56c6 203348a0
Martin Goldberg, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
MG>> What DO Haggis tste like?
ML> Never having eaten one, I can only go on second-hand
ML> information. You told me they taste like scotch, only
ML> the shoe-polish finish.
MG> Like Blood Somethingorother I suspect. Or oatmeal.
Hemoglobin, plasma, and cereal products. Add a little fish
urine and humic acid and you'd have another bottle of Clan
McVladTheImpaler.
... "No, he doesn't want to hurt him-it's just high-impact chiropractics."
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Judith Bandsma
|Sub: PYTHON TRIVIA
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:06:38
EID:63f6 203348c0
Judith Bandsma, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Judith Bandsma <=-
ML> Waiting with "Spring Surprise" baited breath.
JB>
JB> The wait will have to continue until the damned program decides to ask
JB> that particular question again.
JB>
JB> You would figure that if you picked up with a saved game that all the
JB> parameters would still be the same, wouldn't you? But NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
JB> Oh well, it IS Monty Python, after all.
Isn't "Waste of time" also included in the title?
... Lobotopantheism: Using an empty cranium as the basis of gods.
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Judith Bandsma
|Sub: 2 SO, WHY GOD?
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:07:27
EID:7dba 203348e0
Judith Bandsma, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Judith Bandsma <=-
ML> And this on MLK day...
JB>
JB> Was it really?
Yes it was. I'd be very ashamed, if I could just quit laughing.
... "Oh, bother"' said Pooh as searched Ararat for the 1 True Ark.
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: David Worrell
|Sub: Conference Guidelines
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:08:16
EID:131c 20334900
David Worrell, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
DW> 15 Jan 96 05:19, Marty Leipzig wrote to Styx Allum:
CR>> frequent use of profanity here is also just as disruptive? I'm
CR>> stopping my feed to this echo myself, you don't have to bother.
ML>
ML> And another one bites the dust....
DW> Hell, Chuckie'd have to stand on a stack of milk crates to even bite
DW> dust.
He keeps getting run over by snakes.
... "Thank you for being gutless!"- Crow, "Rocketship X-M"
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: David Worrell
|Sub: Staal shows he's colored
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:08:48
EID:6342 20334900
David Worrell, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Marty Leipzig:
DW> 15 Jan 96 05:50, Marty Leipzig wrote to Preston Simpson:
PS>> (What fool puts an OED on the second floor of his house?
PS>> You've got to make sure the foundation is fairly strong to even
PS>> have one on the ground floor.)
ML> Since when do double-wides have a second story?
DW> Considering how vertically-challenged Jimbo is, he probably calls the
DW> empty area beneath the trailer the first story.
Well, he calls that empty area between his ears a "mind"...
... Evolution yesterday for a better tomorrow today.
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: David Worrell
|Sub: Fucking gun nuts!
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:09:31
EID:b592 20334920
David Worrell, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to MARTY LEIPZIG:
DW> 12 Jan 96 21:12, Fredric Rice wrote to MARTY LEIPZIG:
ml>> That's the round and M O favored by the Massad.
FR> anyway it's spelled wrong. }:-} Don't I not work for the Mossad?
DW> I *told* you that bourbon would rot your brain.
Sheesh. Misspell a foreign word just once and your rep goes out
the window...
DW> Today you're having
DW> your spelling corrected by Fred. What happens tomorrow, instruction
DW> in the finer points of theology by Mcabee?
More likely, English lessons from Jimbozo.
... Close your eyes, click your heels together 3 times and yell "IS NOT!"
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: Staal shows all...
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:11:50
EID:0167 20334960
Jim Staal, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said to
Marty Leipzig:
So, is this Jim or just another equal waste of electrons?
-=> Quoting Marty Leipzig to Ryan Shaw <=-
JS> Hey, let's get the spelling of my good name correct, OK? 'STAAL'!
JS> Never 'Stall'!
RS> Staalin.
ML> Staal's stalled in the vast lane.
JS> Uh...no. I like concerting. I like Italian cuisine...and
JS> Chinese...and a visit to the Japanese steakhouse.
RS> A Japanese `steakhouse'?
ML> Benihana's; which is to real Japanese food like Chi Chi's is to
ML> Mexican food.
JS> OK, OK...it's actually called 'the Golden Dragon'...
Then you went to the cathouse next door, called the Golden
Shower.
... The believer is happy; the doubter is wise - Hungarian proverb
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|From: Marty Leipzig
|To: Christian Miller
|Sub: PERCEPTION OF THE SPI
|Date: 19 Jan 96 09:47:58
EID:f0f1 20334de0
Christian Miller, who knows now that a "bordello" isn't a Latin depot, said
to Katherine Wintersnight:
CM> On Monday, January 15th, 1996 - Katherine Wintersnight wrote:
KW> coherently. I do note, however, you are evading answering my
KW> question. How many men do you share your wife with?
CM>
CM> I don't share my wife with any one, OK? (In a sexual manner)
So, what you're saying is that you don't shake hands.
... Cretinism: creationism after you remove the Alpha (a) and Omega (o)
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Lynda Bustilloz
|Sub: CHURCHES
|Date: 19 Jan 96 13:26:06
EID:ffe2 20336b40
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1eb
REPLY: 1:109/601.0 30fb1235
RJ> And look how she chooses to spend her spare time. Defending
RJ> that existence to people who try informing her of other
RJ> options.
LB> To be fair, she IS entitled to defend it, and she's entitled to place
LB> herself in that sort of lifestyle. Where she crosses the line is not
Yup. Great thing about this country--anyone's allowed to
hold whatever personal view they choose, no matter how stupid.
And as a result, (I wish I could remember the SC judge who
wrote the opinion--Brandeis, I think) the way to combat speech
is with...more speech. So we get to express our own opinions
on how twisted someone else's beliefs are.
LB> in living it, or in defending it, but in insisting that anyone else
LB> MUST join her in it or face some sort of eternal consequence. It
LB> always seems to me that people who must fall back on damnation have
run
LB> out of any GOOD reasons for promoting their view, and are left only
LB> with threatening something even worse than what they propose.
I notice our BroJim has lapsed back into his "damnation
cycle" again.
... I'd rather be Herod's pig than Herod's son.
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Lynda Bustilloz
|Sub: ARK
|Date: 18 Jan 96 01:23:41
EID:c2d2 20320ae0
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1ec
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LB> On an entirely different topic, I'm reading a history of astronomers,
LB> and one of the little tidbits that caught my eye was that Christian
LB> Huygens, in the late 1600s, designed an internal combustion
LB> engine...and did absolutely nothing with it, since it was just a little
LB> time-killer.
Hey, could you give me that source? When I took a class on the
Stuart dynasty, I did my termpaper on the Scientific Revolution.
Huygen's name popped up in my research on the founding of the
Royal Society, and he's better known for his astronomical work,
but seeing as I might consider going back to history for a master's
in something like history of science, that's just the sort of thing
I'd like to look into.
What sort of fuel?
... Oxymoron: Microsoft Works.
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: Maria...I just met a girl na
|Date: 18 Jan 96 01:28:36
EID:5d0b 20320b80
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1ed
REPLY: 1:228/500.0 30faccfb
Which Staal do we have this time?
RJ> So they had special dispensation to rule out which books were
RJ> canon and which weren't?
JS> Yes, as a matter of fact...
OK, please tell me what that might be.
RJ> Was your god in the room with the
RJ> bishops at Nicea to give his personal thumbs-up-thumbs-down
RJ> say-so on what the canon was?
JS> I'm sure He was, as a matter of fact...
Was he there when they clipped the Apocrypha?
... Professional assassination...is the highest form of public service.
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: Lynda goes over...
|Date: 18 Jan 96 01:30:20
EID:a7c7 20320bc0
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1ee
REPLY: 1:228/500.0 30faccfc
Who's the Jimmy du jour today?
RJ> Especially since she clearly shows NO intention of rejecting
RJ> her Christianic beliefs.
JS> Her 'theology' demonstrates that in some ways she already has...
Good one. I guess I was wrong about you not having a
sense of humor. But there are degrees of wrongness, just
like there are degrees of humor. I think this is an area
where the margin remains small on both fronts.
JS> None of the above. It is more of the juvenile 'peer' thing where we
go
JS> with those of larger number, just to fit in, be cool...I'm sure _you_
JS> understand...
RJ> Hmm...One billion Christians in the world. A few million
RJ> atheists and agnostics. If Lynda wanted to "fit in" with the
RJ> larger group, why would she hang out on an echo where she's
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
RJ> in the minority?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
JS> It was obvious I referring to the echo...
And so was I, if you read the post.
JS> n'est-ce pas?
JS> Huh?
It's French, for "nicht wahr?"
... Well do you, punk?
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: Marty...
|Date: 18 Jan 96 01:35:49
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Which one of the Many Faces Of Jim is in the driver's seat?
RJ> So if you say something really asinine, and then a few months
RJ> later you have total faith you never said such a thing, that
RJ> makes it true, doesn't it?
JS> I dunno. You gonna admit to this statement in a few months? Pretty
JS> silly talk you have going here, Bobby...
Hmmm...will I stand by what I said in a few months that I've
accused you of backpedaling on statements? I think I'm man
enough to do that. Would you like me to stand on a milkcrate
when I do? Do you really want me to take the "high ground"?
I mean, it's a hassle--I've got all those LPs and books stowed
in the thing...(yes, I own a milkcrate)
... Fickt nicht mit dem Raketenmensch!
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: tolerance?????
|Date: 18 Jan 96 01:40:14
EID:3dc0 20320d00
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
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Which one are you this time?
JS> How could the
JS> inquisitionist be Christian with his torture and pain?
RJ> Gee, I dunno. Maybe they had "faith" to guide them.
JS> Trust me, Bobby, like you, they had your pal Satan to guide them...
Where the hell's my check, dammit! If I'm doing his work,
I expect some compensation. I consider a bit of effortless
verbal abuse at you dogmatic jeezoids nothing more than pro
bono work. If Satan doesn't cut me a check, I don't work
for him.
... "N" could be a vowel if enough people just believed in it.
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Jim Staal
|Sub: Select this!
|Date: 18 Jan 96 01:43:28
EID:0ca3 20320d60
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Which one of you have I contacted this time?
RJ> How about we just start calling you a freethinker with a
RJ> decent streak observable without the use of an electron
RJ> microscope? Will you start acting like one? Or are you,
RJ> indeed, "selective about this"?
JS> Like Preston says, I'm selective about this...
Allrightee...so anyway, you're gonna be a thief if I call you
one? Why would you do that? Am I your god? Are you gonna
do something that your Yahweh COMMANDED you NOT to do, just
because some mere mortal gave you the suggestion? Why is that?
Is my corporeal presence _that_ much more powerful than the
stonecarved moral code you've allegedly sworn allegiance to,
that you'd override it for the sake of acting on some subcu-
taneous animal desire, because a heathen gave you sanction?
I'm touched. But nowhere near as much as your head seems to be.
... fundamentalism (n.): fund = give cash to; amentalism = brainlessness
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Marty Leipzig
|Sub: So, why God?
|Date: 18 Jan 96 01:49:05
EID:ed9a 20320e20
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1f2
RJ> BTB, did you get my netmail?
ML>
ML> Indeed I did. Now, Herr Jackson; Russkaya or Belly Ice, which
ML> for you?
Which one would you recommend? I'm not much of a vodka drinker,
but I do know what quality spirit is. If it's got a flavor
(lemongrass sounds interesting) that would be neat. Now, if
you're heading to that Armenian area and you find whatever their
version of ouzo or arak is (I understand they call the good stuff
"tiger's milk") and obtained some of that nectar, you would have
a friend till the end.
But whatever won't put you out--you're the expert. S'prise me.
... "Bother," panted Pooh as he atomic-wedgied Piglet's leather jockstrap.
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Marty Leipzig
|Sub: High Censuosity.
|Date: 18 Jan 96 01:55:58
EID:83f5 20320ee0
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1f3
ML> Strangely, it is also against the law in Norway; for fear of
ML> deleting all the Eriksons.
ML>
ML> They don't want to be accused of taking Leif off their census.
RJ> STOP IT! STOP IT! STOP IT!!
ML>
ML> No, really. True story.
ML>
ML> In fact, the punishment for such oversight in Norway is so
ML> heinous that no one will count that country's inhabitants...
ML> In fact, they've taken leave of their census.
ML>
Aww, now you shouldn'a done that--'twas anticlimactic.
... "Remembrance, like Rembrandt, is dark but festive." --V. Nabokov
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Marty Leipzig
|Sub: A LITTLE HELP FROM SP
|Date: 18 Jan 96 02:03:17
EID:b4c8 20321060
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1f4
RJ> I've seen some nasty horseflies, usually when swimming.
ML>
ML> Horseflies swim?
They do for a terminal moment if I get a lucky retaliatory
swat in after a strenuous round of Marco Polo.
RJ> I don't think it's reached here...yet.
ML>
ML> I heard something about the recent spate of warm weather
ML> hereabouts stemming the tide of this particular strain. I need
ML> to talk to Doc Glodbreg and have him explain this little
ML> oddity.
Yeah, how 'bout this seasonably warm weather us Gulfdwellers
are experiencing. BWAAHAHA!!
... Of all the people I've ever met, you certainly are one of them.
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Lynda Bustilloz
|Sub: flood
|Date: 19 Jan 96 13:26:14
EID:1b1b 20336b40
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LB> I just read the COOLEST thing -- and it finally explains to me where
LB> some bozos get that we aren't supposed to be stargazing!
I haven't heard about this--but I'm not surprised to hear it.
LB> It seems that the Tower of Babel (that is, Babylon) just may have been
LB> real. See, the Babylonians were really big on having to know where the
LB> stars and planets were located as a part of their religion.
LB> Apparently, the Tower of Babel may well have been a giant OBSERVATORY.
I b'lieve the Tower is based on the building of one of the
ziggurats. And as you see, a world of trouble ensued from
this architectural undertaking, and many were punished. So
I guess it's true: ziggurats are harmful to your health.
LB> they didn't learn much from them about it. Since most cultures,
LB> including Christiandom, explored astronomy primarily from a standpoint
LB> of how it affected their understanding of religious principles, it
Via astrology. I'm sure a lot of people don't realize the
reason why Copernicus was forced to postulate a heliocentric
theory was because he was getting incorrect astrological
predictions.
LB> stands to reason that the Jewish culture looks on astronomy itself with
LB> suspicion.
Fortunately, when European Jewry decided they had to hustle
to keep from going the way of many other persecuted races,
they got over a lot of those really stupid taboos which usually
coincided with the militant inculcation of ignorance.
... I'll judge you all and make damn sure that no one judges me.
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Linda Whitten
|Sub: Women's Roles
|Date: 18 Jan 96 02:12:51
EID:6b05 20321180
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1f6
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LW>
LW> Yeah, kinda like that.
What? No quote, ergo I can't remember with which of my
brilliant statements you're resounding in agreement. ;-)
... "Bother," said Pooh as he dropped another rock in his crackpipe.
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Gwenny the Pooh
|Sub: OPINION POLL
|Date: 18 Jan 96 02:13:58
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RJ> The Chinese used rockets to scare the hell out of their enemies
RJ> in battle. They flipped a coin with the Scottish, who lost
on
RJ> the turn and got stuck with the bagpipes.
GtP> The Scots won.
Of course, painting yourself blue and running stark naked
at your enemy helps. Imagine what would've happened
if bagpipes could fire rockets as well!
... If you're too tense, why not reduce it to one fifth?
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Annette Spence
|Sub: HI
|Date: 19 Jan 96 13:26:17
EID:66ca 20336b40
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1f8
RJ> Effective communication will greatly improve your chances of
RJ> being taken seriously here.
AS> Err...so what you are saying here is, I need to be a cipher to be
AS> taken seriously. Ok. and NO, that was NOT a shot at you, just
Nah. The way to _become_ a cipher is to make your posts
difficult to read--because many people will simply ignore you.
I skip over posts that don't come across as very coherent,
regardless of said person's beliefs or lack of.
AS> frustration at the entire idea. I can only try. I have allowed this
AS> posting style to develop over the past year and can see that it will
be
AS> hard to change it. Interesting. When I write I do it free form too
AS> and then go back and correct later. I think it is sad that someone
As do most people who post. Since this forum (e-mail) is
devoted to communication via the written word, those who use
it tend to strive for clarity--especially in a topic as sensitive
and semantically arguable as this.
AS> would rather pick apart my punctuation than deal with the issue. I
Now, I _did_ make that point only at the very beginning of
your post, rather than sticking it in the middle of the dis-
cussion at hand. I made a point of separating it from the
argument, as it seemed a different issue. If you'd come here
blustering about how everyone needs "Jesus or go to hell",
I'd probably have just made that the sum of my reply.
AS> *will* on the other hand take your advice as a good idea. Thanks.
Okeydoke. It's just that some of us here have something of a
love affair with the printed word, and hate to see our mistress
violated.
RJ> Whoa! Hold the fort! A Christian who asks *questions*???
RJ> There goes the neighborhood.
AS> Scary eh? I do that on occasion. I have been taught, highly stressed where I worship> that we have responsibilities as
AS> Christians to think and decide for ourselves. My pastor encourages
us
AS> to go home and do our best to pick apart his arguments.
Hmm, interesting. What denomination are you?
RJ> I must warn you that if you continue asking tough questions,
RJ> you may find no recourse but to abandon your belief in the
RJ> construct you call God. The belief in deity, not to mention
AS> Not likely, but I will take the warning.
Never say never. Some of the most vocal nonbelievers here
were pretty fervent in their Christianity at one time.
AS> Heh, you are lucky, that I am still here.
AS> You guys *scare* me.
Well, there's a few choice nuggets of wisdom in that musty
book of yours--that thing about "reaping what you sow" is
pretty good. That's why you see some believers here get a
hard ride, while others get the privilege of honest dialogue.
People that ask more questions than give answers often fall
into that latter category. Stick around--we really _do_ like
believers who ask questions. Fundies are just what we use
for target practice, like claypigeons, but they do get boring
by virtue of all being so much alike, and intractably dense.
AS> illogical stuff you will hate> I *do* believe in God, and most of that
AS> belief has been emotional or performance oriented in the past. I am
on
Do you think emotions should govern human action?
AS> the quest of a lifetime. To find out the *why's* of my beliefs. I
AS> don't believe he created evil, I believe he allowed it as part of a
He allowed it, but how can you sidestep the fact that, in your
theology, as Creator of Everything, evil happened to be one of
those things? If he didn't create evil, it's something beyond
his sphere--which rules out the omniscient/omnipotent argument.
AS> plan I have limited knowledge of. I trust in the outcome of it, but
AS> can't hope to encompass the specifics. Except as he sees fit to
AS> reveal them to me.
Do you attribute every advance in your life to your god, or
do you think your own human ability can bring about actions
for good in your life? Do you think pride is a sin?
AS> Hurm, arrgh...I have a feeling I am in for a ride here.
Yup.
... Ven der putz shteht, ligt der sechel in drerd.
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: Aryan National Front
|Date: 19 Jan 96 13:26:18
EID:e666 20336b40
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe1f9
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rj> Y'just sort of clap your hand over your face after a minute
rj> and say, "Uh, yeah. Well look, izzat the time? I've gotta
rj> get going now..."
FR> When I go to any kind of gathering, I always have my own
FR> safety in mind. (I live near Los Angeles.) I doubt I would
FR> ever find myself among a bunch of nuts by accident.
My experiences mainly came from hanging out in the wrong kinds
of bars on the wrong kinds of streets in college towns.
Chimes St. in Baton Rouge used to be a haven for teenage gutter-
punk skinheads who always managed to have fights on the sidewalk
outside the bar I frequented, where 50 feet away unreconstructed
hippies smoked dope on the back porch. By Sunday morning, there'd
be enough broken bottles on the sidewalk to look like Kristallnacht.
FR> First: I checked my archives for Aryan National Front. I found
FR> nothing. I will check the Ken McVey archives since they're far more
I hope I've got the name right. One of the shibboleths that
identify them is that they all wear a necklace (usually a leather
thong) with a Celtic-fashion cross and a Viking rune hanging
from it.
FR> Did you ever see a PBS special called, "Blood on the Face?"
Sure haven't. Saw one on HBO a few months ago, but I can't
remember the name offhand.
... Professional assassination...is the highest form of public service.
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: Sexist Asshole for Christ
|Date: 18 Jan 96 02:47:55
EID:b3eb 203215e0
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
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rj> Not sure. How do you mean? Stating the facts
rj> isn't bigotry. Making the prejudgment is.
FR> David's comment, as I recall, stated facts exactly yet you appeared
to
FR> accuse him of bigotry.
Well, he did say men are violent scum, or words to that
effect--and he used statistics to back his assertion. I
merely mentioned a lot of racists used stats to back up
their prejudice--I wasn't accusing him of sexism, just
using what I thought was a fallacious tactic.
... Amish pickup line: "Art thee up for some plowing?"
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: Received Threat / FBI
|Date: 18 Jan 96 02:52:47
EID:66c3 20321680
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
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rj> What I mean about the social problem is that the anti-war
rj> crowd used to harass soldiers and spit on them because they
rj> went to Nam.
FR> I can't agree that that was a "social problem." I won't condone the
You couldn't drive a 20-penny nail up the collective anus of
America with a jackhammer because there was so much tension
between the generations. It was, by definition, a social
_problem_, just like the race issue is doing it now.
FR> Now I ___SUPPORT___ "human rights actions" in places like Bosnia
FR> except that I would rather like our government to clearly define their
FR> role.
rj> Agreed.
FR> I'm surprised. }:-}
Why?
rj> Actions without objectives are stupid;
FR> Such as "fighting Communism?"
Such as "we're gonna go into Hanoi with guns a-blazin' so
Communism won't be a trouble to Saigon", rather than "uh, OK,
so guys--don't make a stink above the 17th parallel, okay?
Just play jungle tag for a couple decades...oh, and if ya
wanna sneak into Cambodia or Laos, just don't tell anyone."
"Fighting Communism" was the action, not an objective.
rj> They'll let the GOP plunge the social fabric into the shitter
rj> again, and we'll have another Great Society to follow it.
FR> Let's protest and spit on them!
I got a thick loogie saved up for Exon and Helms!
... You might very well think that...but I couldn't _possibly_ comment.
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: Received Threat / FBI
|Date: 18 Jan 96 02:59:33
EID:66c3 20321760
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
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FR> I hate to see people die on _all_ sides (unless it's Christians
FR> murdering Christians and they don't drag their children into it, of
FR> course. I can think of no better way to _save_ lives by keeping
FR> warring Christanic fractions from unification.)
rj> The problem is, they lust to send their children off to
rj> slaughter. It makes them feel "godlike".
FR> Just like the Children's Crusade of 1212.
Or the Children's Crusade of 1337-1453, or the Children's
Crusade of 1618-1648, or the Children's Crusade of... :-I
... * Origin: MESSIAH! NETWORK: Killing People For Fun and Prophet!
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: Rice's obvious better education
|Date: 18 Jan 96 03:02:16
EID:9f82 20321840
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rj> Nietzsche would've taken a cursory glance at the Nazi Party
rj> and pronounced them Untermenschen. Pure slave morality, under
rj> the guise of a master race.
FR> That's my opinion as well.
I'll bet the squareheads would've blanched (even whiter)
if ol' Fred was around in '33 to say "Hah! Let the Jews
run the banks and shops--they've got the Go Power to do it!"
... And malt does more than Milton can To justify God's ways to Man.
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: Cops Take Fred Rice Down! Twice!
|Date: 18 Jan 96 03:04:44
EID:53a4 20321880
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
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rj> What's this new woman who's heading the NRA like?
FR> Man I don't know and I don't care. Even before their "jack booted
FR> thugs" issue came out I was disillusioned and stopped paying dues for
FR> membership.
I used to hunt when I was a kid, about 15 years ago. That
was also when the NRA was one of the organizations all but
the most fringed-out lefties considered one of the best.
When I used to be a big poster on MENSA, I talked to a few
ex-NRA members who, as they were tarred by the fanatical
GOP shills, "gungrabbing socialists". They consider them-
selves unabashedly liberal...and are still gunowners.
FR> I _hate_ beer. And I don't eat meat.
Nobody's perfect. 8-}
rj> And I understand people freak out worse over a crazy with a
rj> straightrazor. Tricky things, but someone'll figure anyone
rj> crazy enough to brandish one of those probably knows how to
rj> use it--and draw a gallon of blood in the process.
FR> Makes sense.
And an improper grasp'll turn it in your hand and possibly
make it quite difficult to hold said implement of destruction,
what with all those tendons going plink-plink-plink.
... Thou shalt not eat green eggs and ham - obey thy God, I-am-that-I-am.
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: HolySmoke Convention
|Date: 18 Jan 96 03:14:32
EID:c9e0 203219c0
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FR> By the way: Do you think you might be able to make it to a HolySmoke
FR> convention sometime this August if it's held somewhere hear Dallas?
rj> That sounds like a plan. Not in competition w/DFest, though?
FR> Either the week before or the week after, with the focus on a week
FR> end.
I'd kinda like to make it to one or both this year. Can't
make any definite plans, even if I do have 8 months to mull
it over.
... fundamentalism (n.): fund = give cash to; amentalism = brainlessness
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: Christian criminals
|Date: 18 Jan 96 03:15:56
EID:1abb 203219e0
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe200
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rj> Why say things you don't mean?
FR> Speaking in absolutes draws more attention.
FR>
Yeah, BroJimmy's getting swamped in attention. It's not the
sort of attention I'd go for--people'd start archiving me.
... "Violence never solved anything." --Genghis Khan
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: Sound-stealing
|Date: 18 Jan 96 03:20:41
EID:2a99 20321a80
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FR> It's all a very difficult problem. The problem is made easier by
FR> employing parallel beams.
FR> KCET's show played hiss and pop with undifferenciated noise which
FR> could reasonably be identified as voices. After computer processing
FR> they played the result and isolated conversations could be heard.
How much does technology (and data storage/processing) like
that cost? I would assume at present, it's only affordable
for specific targets--not a general purpose snoop?
FR> Dogs are far cheaper as well and law-abideing people watching their
FR> luggage sniffed out by fuzzy dogs treat the near-invasion with
FR> affection when dogs are used, I think. Put a guy with unidentifiable
FR> electronic gagets sniffing the luggage and perhaps some animosity
FR> might be felt.
The ones I've seen look like hyper black labs. Still, even
someone with luggage that might've been laying out in a hotel
room where a killer pot party was held--the dog starts yapping
and straining at the leash...
... Troubled by kleptomania? Take something for it.
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Fredric Rice
|Sub: Jesse Christ Jones
|Date: 18 Jan 96 03:26:31
EID:0663 20321b40
PID: BWMAX 3.11 [Reg]
MSGID: 1:390/87.0 30ffe202
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FR> Oh he'll run our maze, yeah, and wear our throrns and pretend he's
FR> worthy of his "salvation," but I think we get more out of his leg
FR> kicks then he gets out of kicking for us.
FR> I love inflamatory rhetoric.
If only there was an icon for ululation...
FR> Hey, man, we've been looking at the clown for a _long_
FR> time! He's just so _cute_ when he makes his outrageous claims and
He's been on this echo for what--about four years? He's one
of your only vets on the jeezoid side, isn't he?
FR> His attacks against anyone who participates in Thanksgiving and
FR> Christmass is just another piece of the overall picture he'll never
FR> live down.
He pulls this infantile crap for T-day as well? Hilarious!
It one of the more secular holidays we celebrate in this
country--it so happens a bunch of fashion-impaired bigoted
prigs started the thing, but the actual holiday (begun in
1863, I think) is simply that...thanks giving. What are you
thankful for about living in this country? Friends, family,
meal on the table? Spend time with 'em and have a big meal.
... Creationism: cretinism augmented by an Alpha (a) and an Omega (o)
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Preston Simpson
|Sub: Greetings
|Date: 18 Jan 96 03:32:47
EID:c4b8 20321c00
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RJ> Your filthy maggot (a creature that feeds on sores and decay)
RJ> called Jesus made SUFFERING a life goal for all who follow.
RJ> That is the sickest, most anti-human, anti-life thing ever
RJ> devised among our species. For that, Jesus is a bigger
RJ> monster than Hitler (who admired the sandal-clad hippie).
PS> So, Robert, what do you *really* think of Christianity?
I, for one, could do with less of its presence.
... "Mikron ap tou hlion metastathi." --Diogenes, to Alexander the Great
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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|From: Robert Jackson
|To: Preston Simpson
|Sub: A LITTLE HELP FROM SP
|Date: 18 Jan 96 03:34:09
EID:053d 20321c40
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RJ> cavity in sight, yet again." I've been fortunate to have a
RJ> near-perfect set of choppers all my life, so the worst
RJ> problems with the semiannual visit is just getting sore gums
RJ> for the rest of the afternoon. Must be the fluoride when I was
RJ> a kid.
PS> I hate you. I really hate you. But then, it could be worse. I could
be
It's got some drawback. Because of so much fluoride in the
So. Cal. water system in the first four years of my life I've
got strong gnashers, but they're a bit discolored. I'll bet
I've got one dark-colored skeleton, though.
... Summer in the trees! It is time to strangle several bad poets.
--- Blue Wave/DOS v2.20 [NR]
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